In an interview with UnHerd’s Freddie Sayers, Israeli vaccine advisor, Professor Cyrille Cohen explains the mistakes he believes Israel has made with vaccines, and his regrets about what has been done.
Some quotes from the interview:
Especially with Omicron, where we don’t see virtually any difference, there is a very narrow gap between people vaccinated and non-vaccinated, both can get infected with a virus, more or less at the same pace.
– CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
On the behavioural science behind the Green Pass:
You have also to understand that the Green Pass is not necessarily — and that’s not a secret — it’s not necessarily to prevent transmission. It’s also to encourage people to get vaccinated. And I don’t want to touch upon the political aspects of the green pass. But this is a reality.– CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTVOn the risks and rewards of herd immunity:
Herd immunity is a consequence for me. It’s not an objective, it’s not a goal. There is a thin nuance here, if I may say, that people have to grasp. I’m not saying to people go and get infected, I don’t think that this is a model that we need to adopt.– CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTVOn Israeli school closures:
There is one mistake, I think that we made, and that I’m extremely sorry for that. We have made a few mistakes, but it was education. For me education was the thing we shouldn’t have touched. Never, never.– CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTVOn the acceleration from pandemic to endemic:
I think it’s going to be like flu, I think there is going to be bad waves and better waves, with a better immunity at the level of the population, with better vaccines with better treatment. In that sense, and I’m extremely cautious, there is a possibility that Omicron will accelerate that transition.– CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTVOn vaccine mandates:
I think that vaccination is a personal choice. And I always said, I believe it is so. But that choice has some consequences. And here, there is a problem in society. If you are over 50, 60, and you’re saying I don’t want to get vaccinated, will you be, and I’m gonna ask a provocative question, will you be willing to renounce on the possibility of getting taken care of in hospitals?– CYRILLE COHEN, UNHERDTV
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